[7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. [3][4] According to the review panel, investigations by major news outlets at the time, including CBS, "revealed inconsistencies which led to questions regarding his credibility and whether his claims could be proven". Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. Let me easily explain. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. We bought edenpure in September. If I spend less, good. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Burkett, Glenda Sue (Galena, MO, US) Application Number: 10/996346 . I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Types of shades include roller, Roman, blackout, and gentle pull-down cellular. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. EdenPURE claims it uses a copper coil to reduce harsh heat. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. This has been disputed. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. Thank you for the validation. I borrowed one of these heaters from my Mom and it heated the whole back half of my house. The clue is in the word personal . He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . A radiant barrier works best in the attic. Geothermal Heat Pumps. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. I just needed to confirm that there hadn't been a major scientific breakthrough that makes free energy. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. [8], When asked about Burkett's role in the controversy, David Van Os, Burkett's lawyer, responded with the hypothesis that someone may have reconstructed documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973.[9]. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. No repairs either. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. My electric bill actually increased. Thanks. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! I am ashamed that, as a scientist I didn't think through the physics of Edenpure's claims. Kromstraat 25 1.2, 2520 Ranst, Belgium. Water Heater Installation Cost. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. Price? Trust me. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. High efficiency water heaters use 10 to 50 percent less energy than standard models, saving homeowners money on their utility bills. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Turned on in December. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. Hogwash. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. Call now at (937) 773-8350 to schedule a service request today You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. I love it. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Determine the average temperature for the coldest month of pool use. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. Question: What is the best portable heater? I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. The point has been made of how some feel about it. And it is VERY safe. Provideyour email and you will be updated with the latest events and deals. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. His school plays football in the shadow of North. I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. Many have been running now for well over 5 years and run almost constantly all winter long. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. I was told that I have 60 days trial and could return it back within 60 if I choose to, but that is not true. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. Investigations into his military service led to the Killian documents controversy. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. Your info states 1000 cubic ft but the edenpure.com states 1000 sq ft. you also do no state the type of heaters being compared so this is not an apples to apples comparision just a guess. I was dumb enough to fall for this scam. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. [1] The EP does not outperform the Lasko. Talk about a rip off. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. Some people still can't get it. Design in an electric heater is everything. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. Best of luck. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. Everything is on the website and on the adverts. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. I will not call this a scam. For now it has a basic menu of hamburgers & wings. Water Heater Installation & Repair Service. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. Its safer than most to. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. Now she is crying the blues because she could have applied the outrageous price of the heaters and their exhorbitant use of electricity, to her regular heat bill. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. Room Air Conditioner. By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. So people, please pay attention to this post and others like it and don't fall victim to this Biotech/Eden pure scam. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. As for bob vila. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. Especially true if the ductwork is uninsulated or leaks air. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. You don't get this risk with the Eden pure . Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. Thanks for the good info that saved me. They can be made of solid fabric or in the case of honeycomb (cellular) shades can be a blend of paper, lace, and/or fabrics. Frame homes use a radiant barrier as a film on the foam insulation on the outside of the home. They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Bradford White Water Heater Thermostat settings | Save MONEY on Your Electric Bill! It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter.

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